CO129-340 - Governor Nathan Acting Governor May - 1907 [4-6] — Page 303

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It appears that the views of petitioners have any remedy is against the vendors who corrupted their title.

The petitioners claimed over $400,000, but were awarded $25,000 for what they had lost. I saw Mr. J. Hastings about this today. He elaborated the pleas just frowned upon in the Petition at consideration, but really added nothing new except this - when I put it to him that the legal remedies of the petitioners had not been exhausted, he said that the Petitioners applied for leave to appeal to the P.C. from the decision of the Full Court on their motion to be added as parties to the appeal, but that leave was refused on the ground that that decision was only on an interlocutory order.

[This does not affect the question in the Petition but it is relevant to Crown Solicitor's observations on pages 24 & 25 thereof.] I then suggested that "Ham Tak Huts" might have been put up to appeal to the P.C., or that the Petitioners might have applied to the Privy Council for special leave to appeal. He said that they had taken counsel's opinion and acting thereon had refrained from taking any such steps. I said that that was a matter between them and their legal advisers, but that unless the Secretary was satisfied that they had exhausted their legal remedies it was difficult to see how he could act on the petition.

I then inquired about the further legal remedies which appeared to be open to them - viz an action against their Vendors (Tin Pat Thine) for the covenant of title. I was not surprised to hear that it was not considered worth pursuing (with "thin chances"!). Mr. Hastings also laid stress on the fact that the Secretary had recently ordered compensation to be paid in exactly similar circumstances.

I replied that my recollection was that no compensation was paid to Ito Hap Puis, but a comparatively small sum was allowed him for certain out-of-pocket expenses connected with the case. There seemed to be some misunderstanding; the fact is that this was not a parallel case to the present, as it was not a case of concerted speculation - the Petitioners were in the position of having "jumped before they looked" something of a parenthetical injunction which the vendors had not certainly got to sell - Caveat Emptor.

The losses of Crown-land on resumption is $52,640. I agree. The claim for compensation is a mere technical one & has no moral grounds whatever to support it.

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It appears that the views of petitioners have any remedy is against the vendors who corrupted their title. The petitioners claimed over $400,000, but were awarded $25,000 for what they had lost. I saw Mr. J. Hastings about this today. He elaborated the pleas just frowned upon in the Petition at consideration, but really added nothing new except this - when I put it to him that the legal remedies of the petitioners had not been exhausted, he said that the Petitioners applied for leave to appeal to the P.C. from the decision of the Full Court on their motion to be added as parties to the appeal, but that leave was refused on the ground that that decision was only on an interlocutory order. [This does not affect the question in the Petition but it is relevant to Crown Solicitor's observations on pages 24 & 25 thereof.] I then suggested that "Ham Tak Huts" might have been put up to appeal to the P.C., or that the Petitioners might have applied to the Privy Council for special leave to appeal. He said that they had taken counsel's opinion and acting thereon had refrained from taking any such steps. I said that that was a matter between them and their legal advisers, but that unless the Secretary was satisfied that they had exhausted their legal remedies it was difficult to see how he could act on the petition. I then inquired about the further legal remedies which appeared to be open to them - viz an action against their Vendors (Tin Pat Thine) for the covenant of title. I was not surprised to hear that it was not considered worth pursuing (with "thin chances"!). Mr. Hastings also laid stress on the fact that the Secretary had recently ordered compensation to be paid in exactly similar circumstances. I replied that my recollection was that no compensation was paid to Ito Hap Puis, but a comparatively small sum was allowed him for certain out-of-pocket expenses connected with the case. There seemed to be some misunderstanding; the fact is that this was not a parallel case to the present, as it was not a case of concerted speculation - the Petitioners were in the position of having "jumped before they looked" something of a parenthetical injunction which the vendors had not certainly got to sell - Caveat Emptor. The losses of Crown-land on resumption is $52,640. I agree. The claim for compensation is a mere technical one & has no moral grounds whatever to support it. Page 299
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is that

ves to (b) the host views of petitioners have any remedy it is against the vendors who corruante s

that their titte

good that why Gost should mpensate land speculators who

then

فة

was

no

ras

did not take proper precautions

The petitioners claimed

disat

over

$400,000

$ 25,000!

for what they had

gwin $25,

? Decline

his frites 17.7

Two Cox

hie Lercas.

A./ 34 24/6

I saw Mr. J. Hastings about this today. It

-

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at considerath bency, the He really added.

nothing new except this - when I put it to hear that the bagel remedies of the partitioners head not ben axhendid, he said that the Partitioners apples for leave to appeal to the PC. from the Isecsin of the Full Count on their motion to to added pastus to the appeal, but that koor refused on the ground that that baccision

was only on

intasticating order.

*

Ware

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on pares 240 25 thereof. I

I then sucgepolid that ham. Tak huts" might have been put up to appeal to the PC.,

or that the Partitioners thans shows uaight havs affitied to the Presory Commit for special han

to affect. He said that they had taken. comusit's opinion and acting theron had refrained from takins; any such steps. I said that that was a

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299

between than others clicals, but that unkers the Suff was satisfied that they had ex hamslid this begat

remedies it was

diffrent to see how he could

actions

on the petition.

bake awning d'inquired about the further beget reminds which appeared to to open to them - viz an nation against their Vendors (Tin Pat thine }

the cormant of tille

Gang Bang!

and was not surprised to hear that there not considered worth powder shot (with

thran codes") !

her. Hastings also laid streso

M

the case

f

au

krowt

Ho hap

Pues to whom he said, the Sofs had recently

of ordered compensation to the paid in exactly similes circumstances

I replied that may recollection

was that no compensation

WA

paid to Ito hap Purs

but a comparatively small Sum

was allowed hom

for certain out of frocket Expenses connected with the clau

alisus

Chak

twine,

to some misunderstanding; which had

- which had

The fact is that this was

wo

parallel is the present

concerted speculation -

'ish at the Sort Exprenas and the Partitioners ane withe position of having, jumped before they

Chun

to the frace they longht something

of parenthe inje

which the vendors had not certainly got to

Sell Care Emptor.

Joc de

* who was a C# ca

The Luces

of Crown-bion on frames is

$52,64

Jagree. The claim for compensation

is a mere techwil one

&

Moral grounds whatever to support it.

to C.Pd. 17

atorié

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